Debian vs. Ubuntu
It’s the first time ‘conflict’ between affected me someway. It was always somewhere on the horizon.
‘Yeah! People are people! They have to argue…’
Distant ideological conflict. Hera fighting Athena.
But now when I tried to get my source.list (the file which contains repos adresses in ubuntu) as full with possible sources as I could, I came to the idea of adding Debian repos to my software sources. This uses .deb and this uses .deb… it has to be possible.
I googled. And I found out it’s impossible due to mutual incompatibility. Great. And here’s the moment when ‘the war up there’ comes down here to the ordinary user. Like politicians’ arguments about taxes (which seem distant to most of society) finally affect citizens.
I don’t know who’s fault it is, but I think that if you use someone’s work as much as Ubuntu does you gotta make your work usable for them as well. There’s no need to create other standards within the same packaging system.
I hope this conflict will soon end with each distro having their own main repos, but sharing the universe one. I don’t know much about software packaging, but this seems quite reachable for me.
Whaddya think?
Hey, this may/maynot be helpful, but check it out. Shortcut to adding a bunch of repos to sources.list file.
http://goblog.vergilhost.info/?p=57
Go_Blog said this on 24 June 2009 at 23:07
They must be perfectly compatible either way is like they were comecial.
Roxz said this on 20 October 2009 at 13:35
I dont think we will see packages for Debian and Ubuntu being shared in repositories. A very good reason for this is compatibility. Ubuntu modify Debian packages to make them Ubuntu packages. The depth of modification, of course, changes wildly between individual packages depending on what is Ubuntu specific versus Debian specific.
I know that _some_ debian packages may be used under Ubuntu, but definitely wouldn’t recommend using them that way. I’ve tried this before with bad results.
As for the whole Debian vs. Ubuntu debate: I stick my hand up for Debian!
This may come as a surprise, but Debs a really great O/S.
I have several Ubuntu LTS servers running at work, and they’re all fine. I stumbled across Ubuntu issues when I tried to create a Virtual Hosting Server using DTC as the control panel – forget this in Ubuntu, it doesn’t work unless you want to hack hack hack.
Problems were also had, setting up a Syslog-NG server under Ubuntu. At some stage, after installing php-syslog-ng (a php web interface to syslog-ng) the system started writing a plethora of logs which it eventually killed itself with.
I have installed syslog-ng and php-syslog-ng under Debian, in less time than Ubuntu (less security updates to be downloaded). It all just worked out of the box, and works very well.
I’m looking for more reasons to convince my employer that Debian is the way to go, or at least allow me to build approved Debian servers, where Ubuntu LTS will not do the job.
Just my 2cents.
Cheers,
p5yk0tik said this on 5 November 2009 at 01:46